Neptune Retrograde and Vesta are both at 5 degrees of Pisces and Sagittarius respectively. They formed an exact square aspect at 5:34 am, October 17, 2014 (GMT + 8). Neptune Retrograde refers to that source of inspiration, vision, otherwordly perception or connection. It is situated within a web of formless, boundless, psychic connection. It is the planetary energy that seeks transcendence and the loss of ego, Self and Knowledge. In Retrograde, Neptune can slice through the comfortable illusions we hold about ourselves and our spiritual paths. Those willing to face their inner realities may escape deeper into delusion, or find self-dissolution (unhealthily) through self-destructive behaviors of some kind (e.g. addictions to substances, people, etc. ). Neptune is reinforced in Pisces, its home sign and its emphasis is upon transcending the requirements of form, definition and boundary in spiritual pursuits – up to a point, this is completely welcomed, but in excess, it leads to all other kinds of issues.

Vesta refers to that point of complete focus, dedication and commitment – an intense pursuit of something for which we are willing to sacrifice all. At times, it is exactly that pursuit that we are called to sacrifice, at different parts of the Journey. It is linked with the energy of the Priest/ess Archetype. Vesta in Sagittarius has her sights set upon the Path itself. She looks to the Mountaintop, the Faraway, the Teacher, the Institution for knowledge, experience and the opportunity to expand Knowledge of the Self and Pathways of Ancient Knowledge. It is also a time in which our energy of focus, commitment, and our potential for regeneration lies in anything which expands our horizons – be it travel overseas (long-distance journeys), learning something new, re-starting school, adopting a new spiritual philosophy, etc.

When Pisces and Sagittarius square with one another, what you get is a clash between two very different Spiritual Paradigms. Sagittarius is very certain that IT knows how to reach the Summit, and that other Paths are somehow lesser. Pisces is absolutely certain that it is uncertain …. and its Path is one of dissolution and transcendence. Resist the temptation to assume that this is ‘The Highest’ or ‘Truest’ Path as that would be contradicting what Pisces is about in the first place. And making that Assumption is part and parcel of what makes Sagittarius such a powerful, forceful and determined sign in the first place – its certainty.

Neptune Retrograde and Vesta themselves clash as they play different types of spiritual roles – both powerful. Vesta empowers and facilitates whilst Neptune dissolves and initiates (in a different way). Think of it this way: If your definition of spiritual facilitation relied upon a certain definition of what is/is not Spirit, Sacred, Ritual, Path, etc. … Neptune basically comes in to say that all that is ultimately impermanent, transient and illusionary. Not a happy combination unless you’re already comfortable with dealing with the Pisces-Virgo (see ) dynamics. Essentially, those who feel very certain they know what Spirit and Path is about, will be very challenged today. We all need tests and challenges on our understanding of the Path from time to time, take this energy as one of those tests and opportunities to hone your understanding and embodiment of Path.

Bear this energy in mind as you go about your day. There’s a powerful potential in this square – one which can help you hold the formless nature of Energetic Spirit and the Material form of Facilitation in the same breath. Those with astrological placements at or near 5 degrees Virgo or Gemini will feel this as a Mutable T-Square or Grand Mutable Cross.

I relate to his energy instinctively as Vesta and Neptune are squared in my natal chart anyway. My writings on the Formlessness and Priestessing might shed some light on the dynamic of this tension, or encourage you to find ways to formulate that truth for yourselves. ( )

Blessings to all Be kind to Self, and Others as All-Ways Neptune’s energy can be hard for some to handle, seek the company of reliable support groups or networks of people, particularly if you are prone to escapism through addictive substances, self-destructive tendencies, etc. Otherwise, meet the challenge head on and see where it can take you – down the rabbit hole, and back to the top of the mountain – just as the clouds part to reveal something wordless, formless, amorphous, Eternal and Transcendental …

Priestess Bairavee Balasubramaniam, PhD

Image Information: Great Rift Valley.jpg – By Xiaojun Deng (Flickr: Great Rift Valley) [CC-BY-2.0 (], via Wikimedia Commons


  1. Very apt! Venus lies at 4deg Virgo in my natal chart. I’ve been floating around wondering where the hell I am on my spiritual path – and at night inebriating myself from the emotional turmoil I’ve been feeling.

    i keep my focus within however and avoid allowing fantasies to take hold of me.

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  2. Thank you for all of this and your link back to Virgo. I am new to your site. With 5 planets in virgo, this has been very helpful as I go about my goal of setting up a community acupuncture clinic.


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